![]() What did you like or not like? Was there anything that you resisted in the movie? I resisted nothing. I don’t know, I feel like what I’m saying is really diffuse and vague, so you guys should take over. The music I’ve already talked about on this show before, because I once endorsed the soundtrack by Ludovico Einaudi, which is this kind of gorgeous piano score that accompanies the whole film. It seems to me like it’s it’s a kind of a spiritual movie that reminds me in some ways, including the camera work at times of a Terrence Malick movie in early Terrence Malick movie that has this kind of love for the Western landscape and a sort of loneliness and melancholy. But I don’t think this movie principally exists to make social commentary. In that portrait that you talked about of these nomad laborers who go from one kind of backbreaking job to another, some of them at an Amazon warehouse. Apart from the world, there is an element of a critique of capitalism in it. This movie is sort of a celebration of of finding one’s own family and one’s own sort of world. It sounds like it’s it’s sort of a I mean, it’s been accused, I think, wrongly of being a kind of poverty porn that it romanticizes, you know, hard times. It was on my 10 best list for the year and it has just a particular quality that I want to try to get at with the two of you where when you describe it, it doesn’t sound like much or rather it maybe sounds like something that it isn’t. And we have been waiting a long time for it to come out on streaming so that listeners can actually watch it when we talk about it. This was one of my my favorites of last year. S2: Dana, this is a movie we’ve been waiting and I think very eagerly waiting to talk about and here it is, what a what a film. I’m just houseless at the same thing, right? And all of our yesterdays have lighted fools the way to dusty death out brief candle. You remember anything that we worked on and a to teacher? Uh, yes. It’s based on a nonfiction book of the same name. It also stars David Strathern as well as a remarkable ensemble of real life nomads playing themselves or versions of themselves. It’s a movie that asks us what a home is, what a family is, while showing us how hard Americans are trying within the vast, inhuman superstructure that we’ve built, how hard we’re still trying to be neighborly to one another. But also it’s really, really astonishing, very moving, existential vistas. What follows is a quiet, steady, intimate exploration of Fern’s life, its day to day challenges. ![]() But also together they form very much of a community. And they’re living substantially, living out of their vehicles, their itinerant and highly individualistic. She’s part of the subculture of nomads, mostly older people traveling from job to job, from Amazon warehouses during the holiday crush to farm communities during harvest time. Soon after that, her husband died, leaving her a widow. It stars Frances McDormand as Furn, a woman whose whole life more or less disappeared when a gypsum plant her husband worked in closed. S4: Nomad Land is the new film from writer director Chloe Jow. And of course, Dana Stephens, the film critic for Slate dot com. Joining me today is Julia Turner, the deputy managing editor of the L.A. And finally, Ted Cruz’s whopping Cancun blunder and the etiquette of group chats. ![]() And then we discuss Spelling Bee, the addictive puzzle game from The New York Times with its editor, Sam Is. It stars Frances McDormand as Ferne, a woman living out of an itinerant white van. On today’s show, Nomad Land, it’s a feature film, a road movie of astonishing intimacy and in its own way, grander. S3: I’m Stephen Metcalf, and this is the Slate Culture Gabfest Secrets of The New York Times Spelling Bee Ed. S2: This ad free podcast is part of your Slate plus membership. S1: Slate plus members, it’s survey time again, which means this is your chance to tell us what you think about Slate plus and Slate, it’ll only take a few minutes and you can find it at Slate Dotcom Survey. Slate podcast transcripts are created by Snackable using machine-learning software and have not been reviewed prior to publication.
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